2. The in-fighting is bad currently with those schools. I believe BE still would’ve added several of the schools that they invited later. “RUMOR: Pac12 offer from ESPN: $220 million per year, no expansion. @MHver3. MHver3 @MHver3. Quote Tweets. Hence why Texas and OU are staying until 2025. Also the FB CCG. I’m being told there will be a Big12 meeting that evening that could potentially have huge ramifications for the Big12 and the college sports landscape in general. @MHver3. We currently get about $4m for that same content. So not just a. ”““We haven't decided if we're going shopping there yet,"-Kliavkoff, spewing venomously at the conference that just recently decided a merger with his conference wasn’t financially attractive. Valuation of per school is higher if omitting 2 of the 6 because the projected media dollars are very similar with or without those 2. Colorado feels like they are on an island and being pushed out. Likes. 22 Feb 2023 21:50:26Reposting this again at the request of my source with alternate phrasing: Colorado board will meet Monday to informally poll where votes would lie for leaving PAC. We’ve spoiled schools with Tier3 independence. The only true and reliable "source'' yet to surface on the Pac-12's future. Ugh. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Grant of Rights required or will come with a clause for reductions assigning each school a percentage of what their worth is to the overall contract. “Those of you worrying about access to playoffs due to harder due to W/L record if B12 drops scheduling FCS and moved to 10 conference games-relax. @MHver3. Someone mentioned the Saudis last night on here-might be a good option. (Ralph Freso / Associated Press) Sources say preliminary talks have started on a merger between San Diego State’s current conference and the Pac-12, which is in. 22 Feb 2023 21:50:26Reposting this again at the request of my source with alternate phrasing: Colorado board will meet Monday to informally poll where votes would lie for leaving PAC. 11/15 schools would have to vote to disband, and that's exactly what would get gobbled up by the BIG10, SEC, and Big XII. ACCN/Pac12N broadcasting agreement talks fell apart when the Comcast Pac12 scandal broke. BC, Wake, Cuse. I did want to take a minute to share a few things though. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Life has been different since my brothers passing and priorities have changed a bit. Clash of Champioms “Bowl” (more on that in next tweet”” “@flugempire @YouTube The numbers are not where the presidents want them. @MHver3 Jul 27, 2022 Media consultants don’t think we can get revenue positive (from current projections) adding all 4 corners schools unless there is a bidding war. ”Log in. 1. I actually don’t want more western schools. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. I simply share and have a golden reputation of never giving up sources. “@MaynardMtnMan Wasn’t Nebraska a true powerhouse ?”posted by CougarrrsLog in. 239. Retweets. Retweets. MHver3 @MHver3 ACC source telling me this morning that the school they work for has exhaustively ran the numbers and when compared to the windfall of SEC or B1G tv money the financial risk is outweighed by the future reward. They are content to sit at 16 and wait out Notre Dame. ” Big12 financial consultants believe the B12 + the Pac6 would be valued at around $500-$600million per year on the open market. Factions have formed. 🤷🏻♂️ I honestly feel sorry for most of the schools in the PAC. MHver3. FOX would be on board for heavily discounted PAC programming but we aren’t there just yet. It’s not the B12s fault that we see an opportunity to strengthen ourselves now. Become an Annual VIP member today and get access. Oils be basketball/Olympic only additions before that happens though. . ”Log in. Boise State is making a lot of noise wanting B12 to reopen their application. MHver3. GIF. FWIW my sources are telling me that FOX is NOT actively negotiating with PAC. help. yes they are extending his “deadline”. “I’m going to go out in on a limb here and predict that the 2022 back yard brawl will have a higher rating than any regular season ACC conference game last season. Quote. 5 billion a year with their next contract (and BTN) and will now wait and watch the landscape. B12 might be inviting 2 schools that have applied to further weaken PAC and maybe force WA/OR hand. I’m definitely not giving up my CONFIDENTIAL sources. Not sure what’s going on there yet-just hearing preliminary info-but hearing it from multiple sources. Things are getting crazy!”“And the endgame is probably 16 teams. It did ok. A few tidbits I did get:”7:34 PM · Jul 20, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. @MHver3. There. 5% each. The latest tweets from @MHver3 @MHver3 It is expected that tonight, Az and CU leadership will officially sign off on moving forward with officially applying for membership with Big12. ”“@SHUWalshgym They’d only need to share about 7-8m per each of the 4 schools. MHver3 @MHver3. @MHver3. ”Log in. 21 Feb 2023 23:32:48Feb 24. 4:22 AM · Jul 19, 2023. Army/Navy make the most sense from a. ”@MHver3 I don't know what the rumors are you're talking about, but it's pretty simple. Likes. This will be my last tweet for a bit. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Replying to @Tomkatf14. Tweet about Oregon and Washington 1,843 Views | 20 Replies | Last: 3 mo ago by historian ScottS 2:44p, 7/27/23 Breaking from my source: Oregon and. 10:09 PM · Jul 26, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. The numbers are not where the presidents want them. Likes. 8 of them are. 31 May 2023 13:12:44. ”Hearing that Pac12 presidents have vehemently rejected 100% streaming proposal from apple. 3. I have heard that if WA and OR stay that that could possibly keep Stanford and Cal in the fold-I’ve also heard Stanford is very close to going Indy. Half of that is what espn wants to buy for the B12 network. There’s no reason to add anyone else to dilute the tv money just to have an even number. ”“@MHver3 If UA and CU aren't stepping up to the plate and contributing their fair $$$ share to the PAC, it's hard to see how they'll suddenly become valuable assets for the Big 12. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Apple offer could be months away-Apple moving slowly and it could be as late as July for negotiations. It’s the eve of yet another deadline for Pac12 media deal to be presented to members. “@DwayneF77 I’ll say it one more time. I was responding to a person that shared an article that AZ was meeting with B12 on Tuesday. You ready for this? Oregon/Washington 16. “Let tidbit of the evening: Big12 currently has 20 schools in contact with them regarding membership discussions in various phases of progression. The other two have been flirting with B12 for years and few they are a better fit with B12 in culture and philosophy. Utah athletic director Mark Harlan needs just four words to disarm the Arizona-to-Big 12 narrative. That’s it. Pac12 can file an injunction if they choose but it would be a slippery slope if they wanted to do that and suspend those teams. ACC adding west coast schools could severely affect B12 expansion plan because its really just about that late window. Clash of Champioms “Bowl” (more on that in next tweet””MHver3 @MHver3. It got nasty from what I’ve been told. Jul 6, 2022. Amazon gets more first choice. @KStateKyle. one president is telling B12 contacts that there is a feeling GK. 23. Also a high ranking member of. Still waiting on my main source to give me the go ahead to share. Of course “official sources” are going to downplay the significance of any talks schools have had Witt other conferences BY has allegedly been engaged all evening with 1 particular school to the west. Would need to probably add 6. Again they did not have 8 yes votes for either school. Without the additions the show could very well be on the other foot right now. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. 13 Apr 2023 02:07:57 @MHver3 They're all signing a shorter GoR, it's not so much giving up as letting the landscape settle and use the time to build their best case to join on the field. @cwishn. ConversationWe would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. ALT. @MHver3. The desire of B10 is to bring both Washington and Oregon into the fold but Fox is balking at overpaying for both west coast schools considering the actual value they bring. Likes. 35 seconds to PACmidnight. ”“If Stanford would come they wouldn’t want to be the only CA school but Cal is not a good fit for B12 at all in so many ways. Washington has now reached out to the B12 about membership options that include an out of the GOR for B10 membership. To read this post and more, One Month for Only $1. Likely not enough votes there to oust him yet but the cracks are showing. Fox already approved pro-rata for both. com. Yormark has a vision. Things have escalated. Someone mentioned the Saudis last night on here-might be a good. (Read full thread)”We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. I don’t think that’s an option for us. @MHver3 Stanford has basically said to B10: pay us our actual value vs what the bloated equal share of the big pie would be. 2. I don’t hate the PAC. Likes. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Stanford has not applied to the B12 but has reached out to gauge interest. I think something will happen to try to satisfy these demands. 2. 26 Mar 2023 03:01:53Ah-here’s where the subscriber metrics come into play for Apple TV deal: subscription service add on that would see a majority of the baseball games, half the basketball games, and some football games locked behind a paywall. By my count there are 3 "Yes" teams in the ACC and 3 "Maybe" teams. “@RChalk94 B12 100% takes Colorado if they want in. ”Small PAC tidbit: the unequal revenue sharing model being discussed now would be based on achievement in all sanctioned sports. Possibly during the NCAA tournament but it could be immediately following. MHver3 @MHver3. Conversation“Very risky for PAC to walk from what espn was offering but desperate times…”“@bigg_t08 I don’t want to predict anything about what the final offer will be because so much can change. ”“PAC and ACC leadership have had discussion about an alliance but only if it benefits by getting espn to reopen their tv contract. Staples: The realignment battle for No. 19. Of course it’s more financially attractive to do that with the “right” schools. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. I actually don’t want more western schools. Sign up“So my new source just told me some of the terms to NDs offer to the ACC: 7 conference games a year with 4 of them home games, 1st choice scheduling, not signing the GOR for football, and something to do with eliminating the exit fee from the charter. Something new that moves forward and forgets the past. I’d be thrilled if Colorado and Arizona came in, regardless of whether any others did. And they all already know the current numbers. It would seem inevitable that at some point u will say something… I mean, anything. Top to bottom though this new B12 would be the best conference ever assembled. 1 — and for No. ”“I don’t normally get a lot of MWC rumors but I did get a good one this morning that the MWC is fully expecting the PAC to be either dissolved or weakened severely enough that they fully expect ASU, WSU, OSU and maybe even Utah to be partners in the very near future. Gonzaga is in for basketball. If it takes their exit for Cal, Stan, Utah,. Yormark has a vision. 5% each. ”“So ESPN takes more games than the current contractual obligation and uses them in the late window. Tomorrows another day!”This merger would trigger pro-rata for espn contract and allow fox to reopen their contract-Amazon could be a part of this as well from what I’m hearing. ”Hearing GK struck out with the Amazon/ESPN deal and it’s not even going to the table for a vote-presidents asking him to go back to the networks and negotiate it higher. Some in the PAC are trying to push a couple of the others out in an effort to add 2 “better” markets for tv and recruiting without increasing the mouths to feed. But not the question asked. Transfer ownership of Pac12 networks to espn. 2. If B12 adds the right 6 PAC schools it can see its yearly payouts go above that $35m per school number the way the current deal is structured. ” ACC again proposed an aggressive expansion to 20 teams and has been talking with OR/WA/Stanford/and Cal. If Ohio State and Mich or Penn St then Big10 schools would try to bounce for $50mil raise, to new conference. This is the “Tier1” package. 16 Jul 2023 00:27:09. Replying to @MHver3. AZ has and AZSU problem. St Johns has trouble competing in the Big East and would be over their head in the Big 12. Washington State puts up shockingly good TV numbers. One that seems to have a lot of steam is that Pac12 and Big12 leadership will be meeting Tuesday to discuss a full-on merger. THE OUTLAW @Cougarsportsfan · 19m. Amazon gets more first choice. I’ve also heard that Pac12 may not have enough yes votes from members to add SDSU and SMU. And it’s a huge sticking point with their BOG. “So this was considered sensitive info for awhile but the silence of these 2 universities is about to be over. 5m. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. MHver3 @MHver3. Hearing ESPN is taking (or already has taken) their $250m total package offer to the Pac12 off the table. Current B12 expansion landscape: Colorado and UConn have been completely vetted by the conference and networks and B12 will receive pro-rata for both. MHver3 @MHver3. Evening tidbit: as of today’s meeting BY had with networks, any combination of 4 of the following schools (all sports) will be acceptable for ESPN and FOX to pay. “So this was considered sensitive info for awhile but the silence of these 2 universities is about to be over. Previous offer for 24. Oh btw there is an AZ board of regents. MHver3 @MHver3. Gonna say it again for everyone in the back playing with graphs and charts on Excel: Fox has already approved pro rata for the B12 to add specific teams so they will not get “only $20m” they will get the full share. “@BIG10Bruin When did I say we weren’t getting some combination of the 4 corner schools. Shouldn’t be an issue since these are not revenue sports. @MHver3 CU board is in lockstep to pursue B12 membership if GK doesn’t come through with promised deal by June 30th…. He’s also telling me the big catch with the apple deal would be research grants to member schools-an area apple has been historically lagging behind other tech companies. Might Washington and Oregon be making the same offer? 🍎 😂 😂 😂. ”That scenario was floated by Fox. The other 6 split the remaining 40% equally. If acc gets it first then B12 may have no need for further expansion at this time outside of maybe the. ”“@Lake_Cowboy @KDVanderpool We had a good one with TX. No $$ yet from the new partner-very early in talksWe would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. @MHver3. Finger pointing, yelling amongst leadership, and very pissed at ESPN for the hit piece on their conference while they are supposed to be negotiating in good faith. More interesting news is that OR and UW may not be a shoe-in for the B1G. Oregon, Washington, Stanford, and one other might be. ” March 7th. ”“Expansion committee presented a lot of info to Bowlsby and Yormark. ACC adding west coast schools could severely affect B12 expansion plan because its really just about that late window. ”“@blakeblahut @AveCope No. But it’s looking like B12 needs to make the next move. Again they did not have 8 yes votes for either school. Log in. ”We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. 251. Replying to @MHver3. 6. Nothing will happen until GK presents the deal to Pac12 presidents. MHver3 on Twitter: "So just to recap the West Coast Spin: PAC has drawn up their GOR mimicking the newest revision to the ACC payout schedule and schools are ready to sign just as soon as they see the money? And Also AZ President had no idea this document was created? Ok. At least for the next 6-8 years. Retweets. That’s all I’ve got. ”“@DeathrowDerham They want first pick of the top game weekly, best out of conference games not beholden to the other schools tv contract, conference championship game football, and first choice basketball. 4 PAC schools plus Kliavkoff pushed for the conference to take the ESPN money and the other 6 schools refused. Air Force and Colorado State have also been in contact with Kliavkoff. and @JimUSFSig. ”An excellent read that was just sent to me that really summarizes what has transpired in the past year and where we stand now-though if you’ve been following me you already know this tale. 4:22 AM · Jul 19, 2023. 02 Jun 2023 22:14:16. “Pac12 fans should redirect their anger at the B10 and USC and UCLA. They want no part of unequal revenue sharing. As did VT. 1:39 AM · Mar 18, 2023. Once again it’s in the media a few days later:. Beating out even the 2004-2011 BIgEast. 82. ” The latest tweets from @MHver3@MHver3 It is expected that tonight, Az and CU leadership will officially sign off on moving forward with officially applying for membership with Big12. BYU has requested an exclusion to allow certain games of theirs to be simulcast on their network. TomKat“One of the two sources that shared this told me that Stanford is pushing for B12 to rebrand if they add the PAC schools. Replying to @MHver3. ”“Just heard that Yormark meeting with Knight was basically Knight pleading to Yormark to keep the merger talks going and make it happen. The contact that shared this with my source is in a PAC school AD and their school was not satisfied with any of the update-said that the CEOs specifically told GK not to do a presser. Temporarily making my account public just to help get my info out for whomever may want to read. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. ”“How BIgEast conference’s demise as a power conference is playing a role in Big12’s current thought process regarding expansion, tv contract, and GOR. He was dealt a horrible“Oregon is as good as already out the door as talks between the Ducks and B10 are intensifying. Louis Oliverio. The other $5m is from a variety of different T3 revenue streams. Up to 75% would be streaming. There are some trying to angle SDSU or even Fresno as an alt travel partner for Stanford but the metrics show Cal is actually more desirable to tv partners”Kliavkoff is still trying to leverage more $ from ESPN but they are so far apart (allegedly almost $200m per year) that some at ESPN have told people in the B12 that Kliavkoff seems to be either desperate or cluelessThings aren’t blowing up just yet…BUT…Colorado is having another meeting tomorrow to continue down the road of departing the PAC. ”“Got some clarification on those Pac12 bylaws from my regular B12 source: leaving teams only forfeit revenues if they leave prior to August 2024. ”We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. But the upside of not paying for production for PACN and the possibility of additional revenues for leased games could see the deal approach the low $20m per team. ”Log in. PAC will just expand with lesser brands and pay those schools peanuts to feed ORWA more for the duration of the next deal and then maybe B10 will come calling. FSU is the most attractive maybe. It was $24. ”My source is confident of a few things: 16 Mar 2023 13:22:493:25 AM · Jul 4, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. 2:24 AM · Jul 3, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. MHver3Washington State puts up shockingly good TV numbers. I’m hearing we could see a vote by B12 to add them within the next week or so barring a major development. ·. Without ORWA it will be closer to $32-$34 plus control of tier3”NBC/USA were also interested in some PAC content but they wanted it at a deep discount and are “worlds apart” from what GK was asking for. Look for a thread soon. AZ has not been completely vetted like the other two but since they are current P5 B12 would get Prorata. The third is a big market school with a great history that has underperformed in recent years. 4. Retweets. 7h. Who stands to benefit the most?“@USFBullTampaBuc They should’ve built these a decade ago. WVU also saw success going from Independent to BIgEast. If you start to hear reports of a PAC media offer for $25-28m per school trickle out keep a couple of things in mind: 14 Mar 2023 14:40:40@MHver3 · 1h. Washington has now reached out to the B12 about membership options that include an out of the GOR for B10 membership. PAC media: Hearing that no concrete numbers were presented and that the mystery partner that was coming back to the table was ION. Might even see a Huskie or two. Rumors swirling today that there may be merger talks brewing between Pac12 and Big12 again. ORWA balked because they stand to make more from an uneven distribution model-even if PAC has 2-4 more defections”As I said in a previous tweet: the Buffs are an inevitability. " / Twitter. Even an Oregon and a Washington together don’t increase the pie enough to bring up the per school payout. OMG I was wrong. The BYU factor”Interestingly enough Stanford and Cal would not be part of this proposed merger. If B10 is still shopping then that means NBC is getting aggressive with trying to get in on their contract and it’s driving $ higher. FSU is the most attractive maybe. “Boise State making their case for inclusion into the B12. Sign up“Aresco has a petition with the signatures of every G5 school president and G5 conference commissioner to deliver to the FTC complaining of anti-competitive practices and collusion of the selection committee. 1. I’ve shared that here last summer. ”“B10 has told Washington and Oregon that they have put expansion on hold indefinitely. ” We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Could also mean NBC/B12 won’t happen. ” Confirming through my B12 contacts that according to what has been shared between BY and a few PAC presidents that CW and ION are indeed in talks for PAC12 broadcasting rights. Miguel. USC and UCLA moved the needle a lot. ”“Alright! Got the go ahead to post it. “@RChalk94 Governance would make the final call though. Sign up“Called my source. Also my Mountaineers are pretty terrible this year too lol. Once the ACC declines the ridiculous terms of the offer ND is free to pursue other options. Quote Tweets. ”Also hearing TCU and Texas Tech plan on pulling out of games scheduled with Oregon and Stanford if Pac12 goes all streaming out of visibility concerns for the pac owned games. Ed. WVU alone makes like $10m from theirs a year. Houston and BYU applications are in. So at least more spots open. @MHver3. ”Log in. An olive branch was extended by GK to BY with terms that favor B12 this time. No one has control. “@vikingburner Seton Hall is no longer an option. That was a guarantee. “And hearing that Washington State, Oregon State, and Cal have reached out to the Mountain West to talk about a landing spot. Replying to. 3 — is made for TV. Show more replies. OKST has been too one sided lately to be a rivalry-hopefully we can change that. How to create a thread on Twitter and how to view. 4. one president is telling B12 contacts that there is a feeling GK will ask for an extension on the 4/15 deadline We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. If 4 teams get taken from the ACC by the Power 2, there is a good chance FSU is not one of them. “Still haven’t gotten confirmation or info of the possible meetings for Utah and AZ…”“@MurrDCU They’d be a decent add just for the recruiting area. GOR have teeth even for powerful schools. #Pac12DoomsdayClock”Sign up. If 4 teams get taken from the ACC by the Power 2, there is a good chance FSU is not one of them. MHver3 @MHver3. @MHver3 But when you factor in possible matchups, multiple time zones, and other data there’s a strong belief from media consultants that the 6 PAC schools. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. ”Expansion notes thread since some of these are all over the place I thought I’d just consolidate into one place. #PACinShambles”“ACC hoped that by getting Stanford it would compel ND to join. “Espn is telling B12 through back channels that they would like to broker a deal to convert LHN into a Big12 network and secure all of B12 tier 3 rights for 7 years. ”Log in. twitter. But again, aside from Rutgers going to B10, Pitt had the most room for improvement. Corey Wishnia. “Also being told that earlier suspicions confirmed. I’ve even called it that myself. @MHver3. Sign up“@ChiefsInsider There’s a legitimate academic snobbery by the presidents and they are trying their damndest to go down with the ship. ConversationReports that Pac12 is assessing SDSU and SMU are old news that many have known since USC and UCLA bolted. ”Some drips of info hitting the bucket. PAC media: Hearing that no concrete numbers were presented and that the mystery partner that was coming back to the table was ION.